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I have obvious bias (see name) but I think the version of the campaign as initially conceived did not look /especially/ stupid. People don't realize that the campaign itself was legally prohibited from coordinating with the PAC, meaning we had nothing to do with the external funding, ads, flyers, crypto-connections, etc.

The campaign was someone born and raised poor in rural Oregon--who had lived there 25 years, longer than almost all the other candidates including the eventual winner, not a carpet bag in sight--who left only for law school and largely Oregon-relevant policy work. If you look at our initial ad and early news coverage all of this is clear: (initial ad https://twitter.com/CarrickFlynnOR/status/1488544019802112003, early local coverage https://www.polkio.com/news/carrick-flynn-joins-crowded-democrat-field-of-dist-6-contenders/article_861e4590-b5be-11ec-b8c5-0b6164489699.html) We knew we could fundraise well (we did, we out-fundraised everyone else the traditional way) and we knew I had a strong background--both as a local-boy-made-good and in terms of practical experience in DC with important policy successes. My main weakness was not being especially involved in local politics. Lots of candidates overcome this.

To be clear, we also did not expect to win. We just thought we /might/ win. Our version also failed safe. If we lost, we would have lost a normal, small, local campaign that would not have attracted much coverage at all, let alone negative national-level coverage.

The SBF/crypto/outside money thing was not something that the campaign did, it was something that /happened/ to the campaign. Was our little, humble local campaign ready for that type of hurricane? No, no we were not.

My own analysis was--and is--that I had a low chance of winning either way but the expected value proposition was high. A million-dollar campaign is not terribly expensive and a c+-ongressperson and staff who are scope-sensitive are extremely valuable. (I think ASB's analysis on the EA forum about this was good https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Qi9nnrmjwNbBqWbNT/the-best-usd5-800-i-ve-ever-donated-to-pandemic-prevention.)

I also could be very wrong here, but I think the odds of winning would have been slightly higher without the money storm. While it certainly increased my name recognition, it encouraged the creation and proliferation of nonsense stories. It also created enormous downside risk which was then realized.

Maybe I don't learn lessons, but I sincerely hope others in a similar position to the one I was in will be willing to take the personal risks and throw their hat in the political ring. Even with a low chance of winning and a non-zero chance of some external force sending the sky crashing down on them. I also hope small donors don't draw the wrong lessons from what happened with my campaign and continue to support them.

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It's more gonzo than gonzo. I knew the outlines of the story already, but the various cognitive train wrecks kept me glued to the entire review. And not just SBF. The entire cast is extremely smart in some ways yet makes dumb decisions that could be trivially avoided, throughout. And these people are all rationalist-adjacent at least. "The first principle is not to fool yourself – and you are the easiest person to fool."

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